Khairat El Shater was in my apartment. Sitting on a sofa in the outside room. Only the sofa was where the chest is. It was me and a friend, and Khairat El Shater. And it’s like I was trying to talk El Shater into renouncing violence. My argument went along these lines; that it’s understandable that you took up violence when the state was against you, and you had no peaceful means by...