Speaking of Neturei Katra …

This is their official response to the statments by the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad…

I quote in full.

The Orthodox Jewish response to the criticism of the Iranian President

28 October 2005
With the help of the Almighty.

Orthodox Jews the world over, are saddened by the hysteria which has greeted the recent stated desire of the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to see a world free of Zionism. This desire is nothing more than a yearning for a better, more peaceful world. It is a hope that with the elimination of Zionism, Jews and Muslims will live in harmony as they have throughout the ages, in Palestine and throughout the world.

It is a dangerous distortion, to see the President’s words, as indicative of anti-Jewish sentiments. The President was simply re-stating the beliefs and statements of Ayatollah Khomeini, who always emphasized and practiced the respect and protection of Jews and Judaism. The political ideology of Zionism alone was rejected. President Ahmadinejad stressed this distinction by referring only to Zionism, not Judaism or the Jewish people, regardless of whether they reside in Palestine or else were.

We concur!!… Orthodox Jews have always prayed and till today, continually pray for the speedy and peaceful dismantling of the Zionist state. As per the teachings of the Torah, the Jewish law, the Jewish people are required to be loyal, upstanding citizens, in all of the countries where-in they reside. They are expressly forbidden to have their own entity or state in any form or configuration, in this Heavenly decreed exile. Furthermore, the exemplification of one-self, with acts of compassion and goodness, is of the essence of Judaism. To subjugate and oppress a people, to steal their land, homes and orchards etc. is of the cardinal sins, of the basics crimes, forbidden by the Torah.

We have long stood together with the suffering Palestinian people in their struggle for self determination and respect. Based on our religious teachings, we believe it is impossible that any lasting peace can be achieved, for so long as the state of Israel exists. It is towards this goal of true reconciliation that religious Jews strive; via Palestinian statehood, so that we can once again reside in harmony and brotherhood.

May we merit to see the fruition of our prayers. Ultimately we pray for the day when all mankind will recognize the One G-g and serve Him in harmony. May this come upon us in the near future. Amen.

Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss
Neturei Karta International
Jews United Against Zionism


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  1. Referring to your comment on my post on anti-semitism – that is all good and well and I agree with most of it. But I wasn’t talking about Ahmadinejad’s call to have Israel wiped from the map – I was talking specifically about holding a conference to question whether or not the Holocaust took place. I would label that as anti-semitic. (Maybe my first sentence about Iranian anti-semitism was a misleading generalisation.)

    But this also comes down to separating the concept of Israel and followers of the Jewish religion. After all, the Holocaust took place before Israel came into existence. I do understand the inherrent connection between the two, but nevertheless, he can’t run around debating as to whether millions of people, most of whom were Jews, died in the gas chambers just because he’s anti-Zionist. You yourself said it, “…I consider Zionists the problem and have nothing against Jews…”

    That bit about the National Post’s article on Mel Gibson was hilarious.

  2. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with holding a conference on whether or not a Holocaust took place. Reaching irrational conclusions in that conference, despite evidence to the contrary WOULD be ‘Anti-Semitic’ – but holding a conference to question the historical authenticity of an event is certainly not, in and of itself, anti-anything.

    You may not think there’s much to ask about, but it’s not like that. There are questions. What constitutes a holocaust? Why pick one specific incident in a global history of misery and call it ‘the capital H Holocaust’? Why is this event appropriated by both Jews and, much more so, by Zionists who exploit it to paralyze the supposedly modern world by guilt? How many have to die for some event to be considered ‘historically pivotal’? How many Jews were killed? How many non-Jews were killed? Why focus on ONLY the Jews that got killed? Why did it become ‘their’ Holocaust? How many Jews were in Europe in the 1st place? How many of them, technically, could even be legitimately called ‘Jews’ given the whole mess with the Khazar Empire? Etc….Etc…

    All of which are still relevant questions and all of which strike to the core of what has been called The Holocaust Industry. Think of all the visiting government officials, presidents, etc – that when visiting Israel are taken straight off to the obligatory Holocaust Museum visit before they’ve even been to their hotel. That their whole interaction with the Zionist regime is framed within that context.

    You should take a look at Roger Gauroudy’s book (I hope I haven’t misspelled his name, can’t be bothered to check right now) ‘The Founding Myths of Israeli Politics’. The guy got shafted for writing it, despite the fact that almost all his sources are Jewish. The book raises a LOT of questions.

    Whether or not there WERE 6 Million Jews in the whole of Europe at the time is open to question, unless you’ve accepted the guilt-ridden neurosis under which it’s illegal to dispute the number in say, Germany. Also – we are told, and this is an accepted figure, that in all – 18 million people died then. 18. That’s 12 more than 6, and nobody seems to talk much about them. That’s simple inhumane.

    In any case – Ahmedinejad certainly CAN, and YOU certainly SHOULD question what happened – especially when you take into consideration that you yourself, literate as you seem to be, still labor under the impression that most of those dead millions were Jews.

    The Jewish problem NOW – as far as I’m concerned is far too many of them buy into supporting Israel as part of being Jewish – they’ve bought into that. Most of them. Far too few are vocally distinct, the groups like NT, etc…and to my mind, all silent Jews are therefore, to some extent, complicit.

    As are we to various other issues, but that’s another story.

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